Just want to check this:

MarcosC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Just want to check this:

One of the examples is:

Su actitud se volvió violenta de repente.

Is it correct to assume that the change is a lasting one, as with someone who got hit on the head with a shovel and after that was a violent person?

Compared to:

Su actitud se puso violenta de repente.

In this case, cowboys in a saloon in a Western movie insult someone and he stands up quickly and draws his gun?

Just want to double check that these differences are correct.  Thanks.

Asked 1 year ago
InmaKwiziq team member

Hola Marcos

Yes (sort of) - ponerse and volverse, as you've seen in the lesson, are sometimes interchangeable, the former implying more of a sudden/temporary state and the latter implying more permanence. But you should take this general theory with a pinch of salt, really, because it also depends on the actual context and words used each time. In this case, with "actitud" the use of "ponerse violenta" wouldn't be a chosen option for natives, and I don't think there is specific reason, it's just not normally used when you refer to "attitude". You would normally stick with "volverse" - then the "de repente" will give it the sudden/temporary nuance. 

Sorry I can't be more definite, it is just there is no clear cut rule with these "changing" verbs. The cases explained in the lesson are the most general ones.

I like your example about "someone being hit on the head with a shovel" : ))

Just want to check this:

One of the examples is:

Su actitud se volvió violenta de repente.

Is it correct to assume that the change is a lasting one, as with someone who got hit on the head with a shovel and after that was a violent person?

Compared to:

Su actitud se puso violenta de repente.

In this case, cowboys in a saloon in a Western movie insult someone and he stands up quickly and draws his gun?

Just want to double check that these differences are correct.  Thanks.

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